Wynton to play with Paquito D’Rivera for: Beyond the Spanish Tinge

On Friday and Saturday, November 30 and December 1, Tinge Paquito D’Rivera and the JLCO with Wynton Marsalis bring all the mambo, tango, salsa, cubop and bossa nova that the House of Swing can hold in tribute to the most beloved Latin composers of all time: Juan Tizol, Tito Puente, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Chucho Valdés, Michele Camilo, Moacir Santos, Mario Bauzá, Astor Piazzolla, Lalo Schifrin, Chico O’Farrill, Maria Greever and more.
The concert is entitled: Beyond the Spanish Tinge and will take place at Rose Theater. More info about tickets on JALC web site

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  1. Thanks very much!! This is really interesting info. Will re-visit Ernesto (I don’t understand why so often the A sections are more musical than the B sections in this music). Merci, Glo!

    gloria on Dec 3rd, 2007 at 12:01am

  2. Hi Gloria,
    Answering (as best as I can…) your question about tango roots…tango, milonga, habanera, tango andaluz, malambo and candombe, all are part of the same musical family and all have their roots in polyrhythmic music.

    About tango and New Orleans music, the first rhythm influenced by tango was Ragtime. In “The Art of Ragtime” (knew of it by references) Shafer and Riedel mention how musicians composed rags mixed with other different styles of music, included tango.

    In the other way, Scott Joplin’s music was a big influence in brasilian choros and tangos, above all in Ernesto Nazareth’s music (the one you asked me for).

    Its composer said that he started writing a tango, because it was fashion and in request in those days, but that his composition had a sudden shift to a slow blues because that was what he really aimed to do.

    In the twenties, the “Harlem Stride” style also had a slight contact with tango.
    Afterwards, tango influence in Northamerican music decresed, till the eighties, when Astor Piazolla made it possible a kind of rebirth of tango, recording his music with jazz musicians from the States and Europe.

    To finish, just to say that while we have been talking about a period of time quite recent, in early XVs. the polyrhythmic rhythms from African music arrived to Spain when the Arab domination, and produced some dances (between them el Tanguillo) that later went to America. It is also true that it was in Cuba that Tango Rhythm was absolutely defined and developed (at this time Argentine Tango still wasn’t born so to say). And it is this Cuban tango that sustains another basic rhythm (kind of slower tango) called Habanera (like the music played by Bebo andChucho Valdés in the video you posted).

    The Habanera , another example of the mixing between African and Hispano traditions, follows the tango pattern but in a really slow compass. A famous habanera is “La Paloma” and in classical music Ravel wrote “Habanera for two pianos”; Debussy and Saint Sâns also wrote in Habanera form; and, of course, Spanish Albeniz and Falla.

    Well, too much blah, blah, blah and I don’t know if all this makes any sense or interest to you……but I tried.

    careba on Dec 2nd, 2007 at 10:01pm

  3. Hi Gloria,
    I didn’t answered till now ‘cause I had a bit complicated day (lately they are becoming usual)…. and this night (relaxing a bit) went to a concert of Chucho Valdés (beautiful music!)….
    so,….here we are….quite sleepy but still can write few words saying that I don’t know much about him…..
    concerning your question in precedent post……may I answer tomorrow????….
    right now, just to say that for what I’ve read, in early XX s. there was a so called “tangobelt” in Nola city, because of so much locals/venues playing tango music in the area.
    Also, the very word tango it is said to be the african word for tambor (in english drum).

    careba on Nov 30th, 2007 at 9:46pm

  4. Thanks, C! Are you familiar with Ernesto Nazreth, Brazilian tango composer?

    gloria on Nov 30th, 2007 at 3:13pm

  5. This did not link! Just wondered if y’all know whether jazz and tango first started blending together in early New Orleans? Or more about the musical roots…G…

    gloria on Nov 29th, 2007 at 10:30pm

  6. Sorry…forgot posting the link…


    careba on Nov 29th, 2007 at 9:44pm

  7. Hi Glo,
    you are very well informed about milonga…..
    do you know the old brasilian “tico-tico”…..listen to this old video of the very youngest years (a real document) of great Paco de Lucía playing it…..of course not a brasilian mood…….but Paco is great whatever he plays.

    careba on Nov 29th, 2007 at 9:42pm

  8. This “milonga” (antecedent of tango) sounds like a duet between piano and harmonica within the quartet! Really unique, C! Thanks.

    gloria on Nov 28th, 2007 at 7:48pm

  9. The harmonica player, Antonio Serrano, is an amazing young musician with an important(though not too much published) backgroung wether in classic or comtemporany music, a consistent present, and a promising future.
    You would enjoy his new CD “Armonitango”.

    careba on Nov 27th, 2007 at 3:55pm